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1994 Alfa Romeo 164 LS

In a perfect world, the 164 LS would exist only in the domain of white-haired men over 70 who wear scarves like a priest's stole over their overcoat and enjoy classical music with their drives. In reality, the 164 LS is adored by dorks like us who wish they gave off that aura.

We will ignore our stubborn insistence on manual transmissions for the sake of this example, because other than the auto trans, it is a perfect 164 LS spec to us. A 1994 model would be non-EGR, which makes service slightly easier. The green exterior over tan interior is one of our favorite color combinations, and anyone who hasn't experienced the leather on a 164 owes it themselves to check it out - it's seriously nice leather for a mass-produced sedan. Euro headlights and the wood steering wheel are nice (expensive) additions that we really like to see.

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1995 Alfa Romeo 164LS

We came to a realization this morning: we can share automatic transmission cars here because we aren't personally shopping for each and every car that we post up to the blog. Well, we sort of are shopping for all of the cars, but the point about automatics stands. We'll borrow the seller's description of the 164LS as a diplomat's car, and allow for the automatic transmission as a luxury feature befitting that image.

That said, manual transmission versions of the 164LS exist, and we've owned one. The LS, available from 1994-1995, featured the new 24V Busso V6, making 210hp, compared to the factory 232hp rating of the contemporary 164Q. Fortunately, the differences between the engines are limited to engine tuning and intake runner diameters; swapping the runners from a Q onto the LS and installing a Squadra chip will get power to a claimed 240hp. Our car was equipped as such, and the sweep up the tach happened surprisingly quickly.

1995 Alfa Romeo 164LS automatic green
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Year: 1995
Model:  Alfa Romeo 164 LS
Engine: 3.0L V6
Transmission: 4-speed automatic
Mileage:  106,000
Price: Auction, no reserve
Location: San Francisco, CA

1995 Alfa Romeo 164LS automatic green tan interior
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This stately Italian has been my daily driver for the past 4+ years and it’s been a fantastic ride! There have been ups and downs, but that’s the joy of driving a vintage Alfa Romeo. The good news is that I’ve already paid to take care of most the things that go wrong with these cars, including the mostly costly (timing belt) and most infuriating (LCD display).

So If you’re looking to feel like an Italian diplomat circa 1995 this is the car for you!

Talk about luxury!
Power seats, moon roof, climate control, plush Italian leather, wooden steering wheel, heated seats—this car was $55,000 new in 2019 dollars.

The Good:

• Timing Belt and all associated parts were replaced at 86k miles. You don’t want to buy a 164 if you don’t know when this was last done!
• Passed CA smog with NO issues. (But come 2020 this car should be smog exempt)
• LCD display was replaced and looks sharp with no dead spots
• Sweet Euro Spec upgrades (Bosch projector headlights, wooden steering wheel, euro side markers, color logo center caps)
• Leather interior is in fantastic shape!
• Epic upgraded all aluminum radiator—this car stays cool 
• Tires are new with only a couple thousand miles on them
• Engine is powerful and strong, transmission shifts smoothly
• 3M 70% Crystalline tints on all windows including both windshields—DANG does this keep the heat out.
• Optima yellow top battery
• Replaced brake master cylinder
• Replaced Alternator
• stainless brake lines
• lots of other work done with receipts.


Known issues:
The idle sounds rough—RPMs are steady, but from outside the car it sounds rough, not sure if this is muffler or motor mount related, haven’t had time to investigate. Once the car is under power you wouldn’t know.

The upper motor mount is loose—the bushing has worn out. You can feel this in the steering a little bit at high speeds.

The A/C doesn’t often work, I spent some time investigating, but couldn’t get to the bottom of it. For those familiar with this car when I adjust the A/C flow, I can see the vent control arm moving behind the firewall—indicating that the stepper motors are working as intended. My best guess is that there is an issue with the vent door that controls the mix of hot air and cold air.

There is a brake fluid leak somewhere. I haven’t really investigated this, I’ve been adding a bit of brake fluid every month or two as the light comes on.

Hood was replaced after an incredibly low-speed accident that resulted in a dent next to the front grill.

Driver seat heater switch is finicky

Like I said this car has been my daily driver for 4+ years, ask me anything, I want to be honest here—I’d love to pass this car off to someone else who will truly enjoy it.

1995 Alfa Romeo 164LS automatic green engine bay 24V Busso V6 chrome runners
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The mechanical condition of this car is in a safe spot, but will require continuous attention to maintain. The LCD screen has been repaired, and the stepper motors are said to be operational. Still, the A/C does not work properly, and the issue is said to be electronic, rather than thermodynamic. Repairing that might require a lot of patience. No mention of timing belt and water pump service is made - interested parties would be wise to inquire as to their service status. 3 years and 30,000 miles is all that we can stomach on a 24V car, with double the valves at stake.

We really like the color combination on this example. The tan leather interiors can be surprisingly nice, if maintained at all, as this one appears. Reach into the front seat backs and you will feel the suede side of the hides - not something you'll find in most vehicles. The Bosch euro headlights are a smart upgrade, as is the wood-rimmed airbag steering wheel. For those with a taste for automatics in their luxury sedans, this no-reserve 164LS could make for a very nice purchase.

-Graham

1995 Alfa Romeo 164 LS

This square-jawed 164 LS presents the rare opportunity to purchase what is, in my opinion, the ideal configuration of a 164. It starts with the superlative 164 LS platform; introduced in 1994, it brought a 210hp 24V engine, a refreshed interior with - and this is difficult to believe - an updated version of the sea of button 90s HVAC controls, and handsome body-matched cladding - a notable improvement over the grey cladding in 1991-1993 cars. Usually, to upgrade to the 164 Q's 232hp, you have to stomach the swaths of grey body cladding, which have their place, but are by no means subtle. Fortunately for LS owners, it's possible to surpass the Q's 232hp spec with a Squadra chip upgrade and the Q's 45mm intake runners - $860 in kit form. In the case of this car, the chip is already present, so it's just a matter finding some $400 (or less used) 45mm Q runners to get to a claimed 240hp. Not bad for this black tuxedo of a sedan.

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Year: 1995
Model: 164 LS
Engine: 3.0 Liter V6
Transmission: 5-speed manual
Mileage: 79,000 mi
Price: $7,200

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With a bit of trepidation and reluctance, I’m selling my 1995 164LS. I bought it here in 2009 from fellow member sjmst. I brought it to the left coast and have driven it about 29,000 miles since purchased. Need to shed this one to make room and some funds to assist the completion of my GT junior redo. Looks like I’m the 4th or 5th owner based on the materials I’ve been provided. Most everything from a copy of the original Monroney window sticker on through the most recent work detailed below is documented. Still in great condition, properly maintained by a AR specialty shop when needed and about as clean as you’ll find. Runs fast and firm, a great grand tourer with a lot of ‘sport’ mixed in. Now to the details (a lot of which I’ll plagiarize from the 2009 trade / sale post from where I purchased…):

Asking Price: $7,200
Miles: ~79,000
Black/Black, 5speed, 3L 24V
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Photos @ flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/129463...7648339523413/ take a look there and if there are others you want, ask and they will post there.
Located in SF Bay Area, CA

• 17” wheels w Falken Z1EX 225/45 17’s with ~19k miles on them w/ lots of life left
• Squadra chip
• B&G springs
• Goats repaired LCD HVAC display – all works and legible
• Invisible bra at leading edge of hood – no stone chips there as a result
• One small seam split in FL seat, professionally repaired and unnoticeable
• Headliner redone and flawless
• Original owner manuals, tools, keys, alarm fobs included (never could figure out how to program/reset for the fobs though)
• Original AM/FM/Cassette unit with 6 disc changer in trunk. All operable though the speakers are old and crap (usable and OK with me – I like hearing the 24V music) and should be replaced
• Dash is 10/10 – no cracks, no fading or warping, interior is 9or10/10, exterior

is probably 8 or 9/10 (I’m picky)

Things not working, not working right or maybe in need of attention (most from the PO’s list and have not been an issue, some added by me over time):
• DS front seat heater switch ‘iffy’ – mostly does not work, sometimes the display icon will come on but I don’t sense heat. Never need that where I am so never bothered with it
• Small ‘dimples’ in DS front seat bottom, kind of back right corner. Leather is not jeopardized at all and I think it’s just a normal defect expected in cow hides (PO thought it may be from former owners, keys in pocket sort of thing). I say not.
• Misc minor dings (you’ll see not really noticeable when visiting the photos)
• Bottom cladding – at rear valance – ‘nubby’ paint is wearing off a bit in spots. Not a big issue and with the black material, not too noticeable.
• Small bubble areas where paint is failing / peeling on front bumper. ~1”x2” area and base material is black so not too noticeable but would eventually warrant a respray
• PO says was rearended lightly about a year before I acquired. Professionally repaired with new bumper cover, paint, aluminum strip via PO (I have receipts). Good job, not any noticeable difference from surrounding areas.
• Refrigerant lasts about 1-1.5 seasons per charge. Must be slow leak somewhere but the charge can be done easily at a low cost so has been no big deal to me.
• HVAC controls all work as intended though the link to the heater flap door must be disconnected (under dash?). I’ve read here on the BB kind of a pain to R&R. My solution has been to adjust to my liking based on season by moving the actuator arm behind the false firewall a bit to provide more, less or no hot air to the cabin. Again, I’m in a very mild climate
with minimal seasonal swings so not been an issue.
• Seat height adjustment function does not work well. Teeth or belt(?) stripped or jumped? Front/back/seatback tilt all fully functional otherwise
• PO represented hood repainted at time of adding the invisibra (looks great)
• Trunk lifting gas struts getting tired – need assistance to raise the trunk fully but holds it there once opened
• Stone chip very top edge of L headlight lens.

I think that’s about it for the ‘defects’ etc. list. If not on this list, assume all else in good/very good to perfect condition but feel free to ask on specific things of interest or concern. Now on to things done since purchase:
• Smog check and registration done 1/14. Engine runs cleaner than my newer supposedly low emissions vehicles (Mini, Audi 2L)
• Steering rack replaced w/ properly rebuilt unit. Rock solid (aligned too) 5/14
• Fuel pump inc pump relays, Oil sensor unit replaced 5/13
• Brake Master Cylinder, Clutch Slave cylinder + hose 12/11
• Fan wiring harness, temp sensor, A arms replaced 3/11
• Plugs + tune, RR window regulator replacement, O2 sensor, transaxle fluid changed 3/10
• Serpentine belt, T-belt, bypass hoses, water pump replaced 3/09 (@ 50,100mi).
That’s about it. A fun car that gets smiles and comments by those both in the know and clueless as to what it is and a very good example of the last year and low volume US spec ’95 164.
Let the tire kicking begin!

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The 164 platform is much less prone to rust than the earlier transaxle cars - not that rust should be too much of a concern for a California car like this one. Judging from the photos and description, exterior blemishes seem to be minimal, allowing the eye to focus on the flat surfaces and sharp creases so vital to the handsome Pininfarina wedge. Coming as more of a surprise is the state of the front leather seats, which are in remarkably superb condition, even for a car with relatively low mileage like this. Additional confidence as a buyer comes in the form of a fully repaired and functional climate control LCD screen - a common weak point on 164.

Mechanically speaking, this car is long overdue for a timing belt change; we wouldn't drive it far on the current 6 year-old belt. The belt jobs are expensive on these cars, especially when performed at a shop, so do not consider the rather optimistic asking price impervious to this reality. We'd also be prepared to spend some money on the air conditioning to address refrigerant leak, though it seems that we have a rare instance of a car with functioning A/C that actually does need the occasional recharge - a nice relief from the typical Craigslist seller's refrain. With a fresh timing belt, water pump, and A/C service, this 164 LS offers the rare opportunity to experience a 164 in 1990s condition, saving you 1.21 gigawatts in the process.

-Graham

1995 Alfa Romeo 164LS

Almost 20 years have passed since the last Alfa Romeo that was affordable to mere mortals was sold in the US. Sure, there was a brief comeback with the 8C Competizione and new models are set to reach these shores soon, but it seems like us Italian car car enthusiasts have been waiting a lifetime for this to happen. If you are impatient, why not sample one of the last new Alfas we had access to, the 164 sedan? For sale in Georgia, this final year 164LS 5-speed manual is about as close to new as you can get, with just over 25,000 miles on the clock.

Year: 1995
Model: 164LS
Engine: 3.0 V6
Transmission: 5-speed manual
Mileage: 25,775 mi
Price: $13,500

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One owner 25,000 miles, very clean and nice, Fresh timing belt and water pump. Clean Carfax. A great find with very low miles that is in very nice condition.

Versus the rear-drive Milano & 75, the 164s seemed to be valued just a little bit less, no doubt due to the fact that some hardcore Alfisti deride the front-drive architecture shared with Fiat, Lancia and Saab. This 164 truly pushes the envelope of what is possible when it comes to values currently, but it's doubtful you'll find one with less mileage anytime soon. For someone who has to have Pininfarina styling, a sonorous exhaust note and just needs to be different, there are few better luxury sedans with which to do it with on US shores.

-Paul

1995 Alfa Romeo 164LS

I always felt kind a bit sorry for the Alfa Romeo 164. True, it missed the rear-drive DNA from Alfa sedans of yore, but this would be the last Alfa sold in the US until the exotic 8C Competizione arrived in 2008. With its lusty V6 engine and crisp Pininfarina lines, this was a luxury sedan offering panache few other manufacturers could match at the time. Nowadays these four doors are reasonably affordable and offer an interesting choice to those seeking a mid 1990s luxury sedan on the cheap. This final year 164LS for sale in Connecticut has had but one owner and has covered a mere 25,000 miles. And yes, it has the all-important third pedal.

Year: 1995
Model: 164LS
Engine: 3.0 liter V6
Transmission: 5-speed manual
Mileage: 25,000 mi
Price: $13,500 Buy It Now

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1995 Alfa Romeo 164 LS, black with black leather interior. 5 speed transmission. Only 25,000 one owner miles. Very clean and very nice. Fresh timing belt, water pump and fluid change. Car runs and drives as a 25,000 mile car should. Clean car fax. Rear bumper has scratch (see photo). Clear coat on wheels is coming off, other wise car shows very nicely.

Car is located in northwestern Connecticut about 75 miles north of New York City. If you have questions you can reach me thru ebay or call 860-350-1140. I have a page with many detailed photos of the car, please go to forzamotorsports with the usual com ending. Buyer pays shipping. International buyers welcome, I can help arrange shipping to any point in the world, but you must pay for it. Thank you for looking at my listing.

I’m not sure how a car like this can have such low mileage. While they were derided for their front drive architecture when introduced, they have aged to become a solid choice for those seeking a bit of driver involvement. Recently, a 164 passed me on the road and I almost mistook it for much more exotic Italian machinery due solely to its exhaust note. The fresh service, including timing belt, is certainly a plus whereas the minor cosmetic issues would be easy to resolve. The asking price of $13,500 is strong money for these, no matter how clean they are. Another, earlier low mileage 164 5-speed has been for sale for quite some time at almost $15,000. Once these 164s pass the $12,000 mark, it gets harder to find those willing to part with that kind of cash. Realistically, this car should be priced somewhere between $9,000 and $11,000. At that price point, it certainly wouldn’t last long.

-Paul

1995 Alfa Romeo 164LS

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With Alfisti living in the US eagerly awaiting the new 4C sports coupe to go on sale in this market, it’s an opportune time to reflect on the last Alfa Romeo sold new in this country in high volume, the 164. This 1995 164LS 5-speed has just over 100,000 miles on the clock and benefitted from a recent respray and servicing from a local Alfa/Ferrari specialist.

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Year: 1995
Model: 164LS
Engine: 3.0 liter V6
Transmission: 5-speed manual
Mileage: 107,294 miles
Price: Reserve auction

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1995 Alfa Romeo 164 LS. Very Well Maintained Rare 164 LS Alfa Sports Sedan / 5 Speed! Serviced by Continental Motors (Local Alfa, Ferrari Repair Facility). Original Classic Italian Alfa Red (Rosso) / Tan Leather. Loaded!

NOTE: Our listings sometimes get rather lengthy. However, we continually hear from out of state / out of country buyers (many of our clients) that they prefer the level of detail that we provide. However, if you are not prepared to read multiple pages of description, we ask that you review the "Specifications" on the car along with viewing the photos. Also, if you'd prefer, please call us at 925-846-1451 and we'll gladly discuss the Alfa 164 LS and answer any questions over the telephone, including about our Buy it Now policies. Yes, the Alfa Romeo can be purchased prior to the end of the eBay auction. Again, please give us a call for details.

ALSO, PLEASE NOTE: EACH TIME WE LIST A VEHICLE ON eBay WE RECEIVE COMMENTS THAT THERE ARE NO PHOTOS OF THE INTERIOR, ENGINE, UNDERCARRIAGE, ETC. OF THE CAR. THERE ARE 100 PHOTOS OF ALL AREAS OF THE CAR BUT, WHEN YOU REACH WHAT APPEARS TO BE THE LAST PHOTO, YOU WILL NEED TO SCROLL TO VIEW THE REMAINING PHOTOS. IF YOU ARE STILL UNABLE TO SEE THE PHOTOS, PLEASE CALL US AND WE WILL PROVIDE A LINK FOR THE PHOTOS (IT IS A VIOLATION OF eBay POLICY TO LIST THE URL ON THE eBay LISTING).

All of our photos are taken in natural light and we do not "Photo-Shop" or touch-up the photos in any way. The cosmetic quality of this 1995 Alfa 164 LS (both inside & out) is beautiful and reflects the care that the car has received.

The "madness" will soon be underway in the various auction venues around the country. We often times see a wide range of collectible cars / special interest cars sell for inflated amounts in the "heat of the moment." This car is offered at a realistic price and, unlike bidding on cars in an auction environment, you will have the benefit of extensive information & history on the car prior to making a buying decision. If you are not comfortable with risking the purchase of a vehicle that has simply rolled across the auction block we ask that you consider the benefit of dealing with a credible collector car specialist with a documented history of accurate and complete descriptions.

HISTORY OF THE ALFA ROMEO 164

The Alfa Romeo 164 was styled by Enrico Fumia at Pininfarina in 1982. The 164 can be seen as the logical extension and successor of the Alfetta, particularly the late-model "long nose, square light."

The 164 was the first Alfa to feature extensive use of computer aided design for calculating structural stresses, resulting in a very rigid but still relatively lightweight body. The 164 was the basis of the Type Four platform, which it shares with Lancia Thema, Fiat Croma and Saab 9000. Being the last to reach the market, the 164's body shell was the most aerodynamic of the four, and had a markedly sleeker profile and lower coefficient of drag. In order to permit this design variation, an exclusive front suspension was developed.

The 164 was the first of the "new technology" Alfa Romeos, and is the technological and styling basis of all Alfa's to the present day. The 164 also introduced dramatically improved build quality over previous Alfa's, featuring galvanized steel frame and various body panels for the first time, ending the most common complaint by Alfa customers about rust problems encountered in older models such as the Alfasud and the GTV. As a top-line saloon, the car proved it to be as a comfortable and sure-footed car, with a distinctively sporting character, consistent with the marque's tradition. In fact, the motoring press of the day found its only fault to be minimal torque steer, particularly in earlier versions.

The 164 was designed to compete in the executive car segment dominated by the German cars. It offered better value for money in terms of technology (having three onboard computers, one for air conditioning, one for instrumentation, and one for engine management; air conditioning and instrument functions shared a multiple-mode coded Z-80-class microcontroller for dashboard functioning). Air-direction within the ventilation system was controlled by a pair of servomechanisms.

The car had some very advanced features for its day, such as automatic climate control and electronically controlled damping suspension (in the top-line Cloverleaf models and 164 LS). This suspension actively reduced damping in response to conditions to provide a dynamic compromise between road holding and comfort. The 164 also boasted engines rated among the best in the industry at the time, and the same basic engine designs were used until very recently by Alfa Romeo across its model range.

SPECIFICATION BY "CATEGORY"

PERFORMANCE SPECIFICATIONS

- 2,959 cc 3 liter 6 V front transverse engine with 93 mm bore, 72.6 mm stroke, 10 compression ratio, double overhead cam and four valves per cylinder

- Premium unleaded fuel

- Fuel economy EPA highway (l/100km): 9.8

- Multi-point injection fuel system

- 65 liter fuel tank

- Power: 240 HP @ 6,300 rpm; 198 ft. lb. @ 5,000 rpm

HANDLING

- ABS

- Four disc brakes including two ventilated discs

- Space saver spare wheel

- Strut front suspension with stabilizer bar , rear suspension with stabilizer bar independent with coil springs

INTERIOR

- CFC free liquid air conditioning with climate control (Blows ice cold in this Alfa)

- Power antenna

- Anti-theft protection

- Front illuminated ashtray , additional row seats ashtray

- Stereo audio system with AM/FM

- Cargo area light

- Cargo capacity: rear seat up; to lower window (liters)

- Front seats illuminated cigar lighter , rear seats illuminated cigar lighter , additional row seats Cigar lighter

- Digital clock

- Floor full console with covered storage box

- Delayed/fade courtesy lights with four switches

- Cruise control

- Door ajar warning

- Door pockets/bins for driver seat, passenger seat and rear seats

- External temperature display

- Floor covering: carpet in load area

- Driver and passenger front airbag

- Bucket seats

- Reel height adjustable front seat belts on driver seat and passenger seat

- Front seat center armrest

- Lockable illuminated glove compartment with lid

- Height adjustable head restraints on front seats and rear seats

- Internal dimensions: front headroom (mm): 970, rear headroom (mm): 930, front hip room (mm): 1,461, rear hip room (mm): 1,461, front leg room (mm): 998, rear leg room (mm): 861, front shoulder room (mm): 1,433, rear shoulder room (mm): 1,438 and interior volume (liters): 2,413

- Low fuel level warning

- Remote power locks

- Vehicle speed proportional power steering

- Front, rear and front power windows

- Front and rear reading lights

- Reel rear seat belts on driver side , reel rear seat belts on passenger side , static rear seat belts on center side

- Rear seat center armrest

- Seating for three in rear

- Automatic operation rear view mirror

- Electric remote fuel filler door release

- Electric remote trunk/hatch release

- Front seat back storage

- Total Seating: Five

- Leather seat upholstery

- Six speaker stereo

- Leather covered steering wheel

- Tachometer

- Passenger illuminated vanity mirror

- Ventilation system with variable fan speeds and recirculation setting

EXTERIOR

- Body side molding

- Front and rear body color impact absorbing bumpers

- Chrome/bright trim on side of body and on bumpers

- Coefficient of drag: 0.3

- Driver and passenger power heated body color door mirrors

- External dimensions: overall length (mm): 4,666, overall width (mm): 1,760, overall height (mm): 1,389, wheelbase (mm): 2,659, front track (mm): 1,514, rear track (mm): 1,488 and curb to curb turning circle (mm): 10,790

- Front fog lights

- High pressure headlight cleaners

- Halogen bulb headlights

- Gloss paint

- Rear window

- Front steel electric tilting sliding sunroof

- Tinted glass

- Weights: gross vehicle weight rating (kg) 1,969 and curb weight (kg) 1,548

- Two-speed windshield wipers with variable intermittent wipe

THIS PARTIUCLAR 1995 ALFA ROMEO 164 LS

HIGHLIGHTS

- 107,294 well maintained California miles!

- Difficult to find 164 LS version

- 5 Speed

- Serviced by respected Continental Motors, Sunnyvale, CA (Ferrari, Alfa servicing facility) - Receipts included (Refer to mechanical section for details)

- Well sorted, reliable example

- Runs & drives extremely well

- 100% original with no modifications (Original Alfa radio replaced with new radio CD unit and new speakers but original radio included)

- Very straight rust free California car with excellent paint - Factory correct red color (Russo))

- Exterior, interior, trunk & engine bay reflect "enthusiast care"

- NO signs of rust on body, undercarriage, trunk or engine bay

- Undercarriage and all frame members show no indication of present or previous damage

- Recent mechanical work including timing belt, complete tune-up, brakes and smog

- A/C (and automatic temperature feature) works perfectly and blows very cold

- Original Owner's Manual included

OVERALL CONDITION

COSMETIC

Having traveled just over 107,000 miles (Under 6,000 miles per year!) and always "living" in California, the Alfa is in beautiful condition. The exterior has the appearance of a considerably new vehicle and the paint, body, trim, glass and other exterior components are in excellent condition. The car received a repaint in its factory original color within the last few years and the Alfa 164 LS shows very well indeed. There is virtually no over-spray on the trim and the paint is laid flat, free from significant orange peel or other defects and the car was painted as a "complete" (no partial painting of panels, etc.). The 164 LS is striking and the photos accurately reflect its condition inside and out.

Alfa Romeo's (and many other vehicles) carried permanent stickers on various panels (fenders, doors, front and rear bumper cover, and rear quarter panels) in order to determine originality and be able to ascertain if any accident damage has resulted in replacement of a panel (s). We look for these "Numbers" not only for the sake of originality but also to ensure that the car has not been involved in an accident. We are pleased to report that this Alfa has the original numbers on the rear quarter panels, all 4 doors, and both front fenders and the bumper (refer to photo in listing). The front and rear bumpers are free from any damage, significant imperfections or damage. Please take a look at the photographs that show the car was a suburban car and not subjected to the parking realities of big city life.

The exterior trim is all original and in what we often refer to as "California condition." The trim is devoid of all but the most minor imperfections that can be expected on a vehicle of this vintage, none of which detract from the overall appearance and attractiveness of the Alfa. The glass is excellent, all of the power windows are functional and there are no stars or cracks in the windshield. The mirrors do not show the typical rock chips and the front spoiler is free from the usual major scrapes and damage and in very nice condition.

INTERIOR

The interior on the Alfa Romeo is in lovely condition and shows minimal signs of wear due to the cars low mileage. There are some signs of patina of fine leather on the driver's side seat but the seat remains totally free from any rips, tears or damage to the seat bolster. This is a rarity with the relatively high bolstered sport style seating found in the Alfa 164 LS. The passenger seat, rear seats, door panels, dash, headliner, carpet (covered with carpeted mats) and other interior components are excellent.

The Alfa remains 100% stock including with the exception of a considerably improved radio that was mounted in the stock radio opening. Recently, the owner added new quality speakers in their stock openings to eliminate the "rattling" from older, broken speakers (receipts included). The system sounds great but does not have obtrusive aftermarket speakers added to the interior.

The instrumentation is totally stock and, unlike many Alfa's of this vintage, all of the instruments work fine as does the air conditioning, cruise control and warning light system. The automatic air condition system appears is fully functional due, in part, to ongoing maintenance by the car's owner who took a "cost no object" approach to the cars care. The LCD digital display readings show only partial numbers at some settings, a common reality with the older 164's. The power sunroof works fine as do the windows, door locks, remote mirrors and fully adjustable electric seats (both sides).

MECHANICAL CONDITION

In a word, excellent. This Alfa Romeo runs very strong and has been serviced by one of the most respected Italian repair facilities in the San Francisco Bay area. Receipts for replacement of the timing belt, brakes, O2 sensor, starter relay, #2 coil and other work are included and outlined below.

The Car Fax records also support the mileage and ownership history and show no adverse findings. Documentation in our file supports their knowledge of the car and the recent repairs and upgrades as follows (not all listed; just recent work totaling over $3,000.00 within 1,000 miles):

- New tires & balance (Within 100 miles!)

- Safety inspection (within 50 miles)

- New Timing Belt & tensioners (within 1,000 miles)

- New front brakes (Within 1,000 miles)

- Replace #2 coil (within 1,000 miles)

- New O2 Sensor Within 1,000 miles)

- New starter relay (within 1,000 miles)

- Regular Service

- New Hood Struts

- New Wiper blades

- Replacement battery

- Replacement ignition switch

- Passed Smog
DRIVING THE ALFA ROMEO 164 LS

The Alfa 164 was always a great sports sedan to drive but the "S" version offers even more enjoyment. In all ranges the car offers excellent performance and pulls very strong and without hesitation. The car revs freely and upon hard acceleration there is controllable / mild torque steer due to the front wheel drive configuration of the Alfa. The idle is smooth and even and the car has recently passed the stringent California smog test.

Driving the Alfa is really a pleasure. There are no signs of mechanical issues and there is no noise in the drive-line. The clutch is excellent, the transmission shifts very well, the synchromesh gears are excellent (even at higher speeds) and the car is fitted with matching Michelin tires and original "telephone dial" Alfa Romeo wheels. The car steers straight, stops straight and has excellent brakes. An inspection of the underside of the car is clean and free from rust and any signs of previous repair or accidents. We encourage a review of the photos as the old adage "A photo is worth a thousand words" clearly applies in this instance! All of the electrical components are fully functional and the car passed California's strict safety inspection for lights, turn signals, wipers, within the previous week. The car is licensed and registered in California until March, 2014 and, of course, has a free and clear California title with no liens or encumbrances.

The trunk and engine bay are very clean and consistent with the condition of the car's exterior and interior quality and the original Alfa insignia mat is in place and in very good condition. Under the mat are the properly secured spare tie / wheel and the cars original jack.

We often times receive questions that go something like: "Does the car really look as good as it does in the photographs"? The answer in this case is yes. This car is a very attractive example of the difficult to locate 164 LS Alfa Romeo. Perhaps most important, this is an opportunity to own a truly unique and original Alfa 164 LS that offers great handling, looks and performance at a very attractive price.

We have owned a number of 164's along with more Alfa's than we can count and would be glad to discuss the car with those who may not be familiar with the benefits of an Alfa vs. other Marques (BMW's, Saab's, Volvo's). Please give us a call if we can answer any questions. We can be reached during regular business hours at 925-846-1451. We also encourage inspections and would welcome the opportunity to meet you and show you this fantastic Alfa Romeo 164 LS.

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Specifications:

Body Type / Style: Sedan
Exterior Color: Red (Rosso)
Interior Color: Tan Leather
Engine: 6 Cylinder
Transmission: 5 Speed Manual
Mileage: 107,294
Drive: Rear
Doors: 4

Equipment:

3-Point Seat Belts
5-Speed Transmission
AM/FM/CD Player
Airbag
Alarm
California Lic & Reg
Dual Side Mirrors
Factory Air Conditioning
Factory Bucket Seats
Factory Gauges
Factory Original Spare / Tools
Front Spoiler
Full Instrumentation
Heated Front Seats
Keyless Entry
Leather Seats
Matching Numbers Engine
Matching Numbers Transmission

Meets All USA Standards
Moon/Sun Roof
No Rust CA. Body
Original Jack & Tools
Original Owners Manual
Passed Strict CA. Smog
Power Brakes
Power Locks
Power Seats
Power Windows
Premium Sound
Premium Wheels
Repair History
Repair Receipts
Runs / Drives Very Well
Sport Package
Sway Bars (Front & Rear)

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It’s rather uncommon to see one of these LS models painted in Alfa Red. Usually this arresting color was reserved for the Q model. Nevertheless, I’ve always admired the Pininfarina styling on these sport sedans. Two decades later, these cars still look fresh and offer an affordable used alternative to the more common second hand luxury cars people tend to go for. A late model 164 in good condition will run you somewhere between $6,000 and $10,000, with the rarer Q models bringing a bit more if you can find one in outstanding condition. I’d suspect this one might bring somewhere in between $6,500 and $7,000 to the right buyer, since it has the manual transmission and a history of being maintained by a specialist.

-Paul

1995 Alfa Romeo 164LS

With each passing day, the possibility of Alfa Romeo returning to the US marketplace seems less and less plausible. With a global financial downturn and the demand for new cars waning, it remains to be seen whether Fiat will take the plunge and give American enthusiasts the marque they have so desired for years. In the meantime, I'd be very tempted to enjoy a sedan like this, the 1995 Alfa Romeo 164LS. This was the final year any Alfa Romeo was offered in the US until 2008 when the limited production 8C Competizione came along. This low mileage 164LS for sale in California has the desirable 5-speed manual and looks classy in dark green with tan interior.

1995 Alfa Romeo 164LS

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1995 Alfa Romeo 164 LS. Very Well Maintained Alfa Sports Sedan - 5 Speed! 78,710 Original Documented Miles & All Original Delivery Documents! Serviced by "APC" (Alfa Performance Connection) Southern California. Classic Color Combination & Fully Loaded.

The Alfa Romeo 164 was styled by Enrico Fumia at Pininfarina in 1982. The 164 can be seen as the logical extension and successor of the Alfetta, particularly the late-model "long nose, square light." The 164 was the first Alfa to feature extensive use of computer aided design for calculating structural stresses, resulting in a very rigid but still relatively lightweight body. The 164 was the basis of the Type Four platform, which it shares with Lancia Thema, Fiat Croma and Saab 9000. Being the last to reach the market, the 164's body shell was the most aerodynamic of the four, and had a markedly sleeker profile and lower coefficient of drag. In order to permit this design variation, an exclusive front suspension was developed. The 164 was the first of the "new technology" Alfa Romeos, and is the technological and styling basis of all Alfas to the present day.

The 164 also introduced dramatically improved build quality over previous Alfas, featuring galvanized steel frame and various body panels for the first time, ending the most common complaint by Alfa customers about rust problems encountered in older models such as the Alfasud and the GTV. As a top-line saloon, the car proved it to be as a comfortable and sure-footed car, with a distinctively sporting character, consistent with the marque's tradition. In fact, the motoring press of the day found its only fault to be minimal torque steer, particularly in earlier versions.

The 164 was designed to compete in the executive car segment dominated by the German cars. It offered better value for money in terms of technology (having three onboard computers, one for air conditioning, one for instrumentation, and one for engine management; air conditioning and instrument functions shared a multiple-mode coded Z-80-class microcontroller for dashboard functioning). Air-direction within the ventilation system was controlled by a pair of servomechanisms.

The car had some very advanced features for its day, such as automatic climate control and electronically controlled damping suspension (in the top-line Cloverleaf models and 164LS). This suspension actively reduced damping in response to conditions to provide a dynamic compromise between road holding and comfort. The 164 also boasted engines rated among the best in the industry at the time, and the same basic engine designs were used until very recently by Alfa Romeo across its model range.

PERFORMANCE SPECIFICATIONS

- 2,959 cc 3 liter 6 V front transverse engine with 93 mm bore, 72.6 mm stroke, 10 compression ratio, double overhead cam and four valves per cylinder
- Premium unleaded fuel
- Fuel economy EPA highway (l/100km): 9.8
- Multi-point injection fuel system
- 65 liter fuel tank
- Power: 210 HP @ 6,300 rpm; 198 ft. lb. @ 5,000 rpm

Handling

- ABS
- Four disc brakes including two ventilated discs
- Space saver spare wheel
- Strut front suspension with stabilizer bar , rear suspension with stabilizer bar independent with coil springs

INTERIOR

- CFC free liquid air conditioning with climate control
- Power antenna
- Anti-theft protection
- Front illuminated ashtray , additional row seats ashtray
- Stereo audio system with AM/FM
- Cargo area light
- Cargo capacity: rear seat up; to lower window (liters)
- Front seats illuminated cigar lighter , rear seats illuminated cigar lighter , additional row seats Cigar lighter
- Digital clock
- Floor full console with covered storage box
- Delayed/fade courtesy lights with four switches
- Cruise control
- Door ajar warning
- Door pockets/bins for driver seat, passenger seat and rear seats
- External temperature display
- Floor covering: carpet in load area
- Driver and passenger front airbag
- Bucket seats
- Reel height adjustable front seat belts on driver seat and passenger seat
- Front seat center armrest
- Lockable illuminated glove compartment with lid
- Height adjustable head restraints on front seats and rear seats
- Internal dimensions: front headroom (mm): 970, rear headroom (mm): 930, front hip room (mm): 1,461, rear hip room (mm): 1,461, front leg room (mm): 998, rear leg room (mm): 861, front shoulder room (mm): 1,433, rear shoulder room (mm): 1,438 and interior volume (liters): 2,413
- Low fuel level warning
- Remote power locks
- Vehicle speed proportional power steering
- Front, rear and front power windows
- Front and rear reading lights
- Reel rear seat belts on driver side , reel rear seat belts on passenger side , static rear seat belts on center side
- Rear seat center armrest
- Seating for three in rear
- Automatic operation rear view mirror
- Electric remote fuel filler door release
- Electric remote trunk/hatch release
- Front seat back storage
- Total Seating: Five
- Leather seat upholstery
- Six speaker stereo
- Leather covered steering wheel
- Tachometer
- Passenger illuminated vanity mirror
- Ventilation system with variable fan speeds and recirculation setting

EXTERIOR

- Body side molding
- Front and rear body color impact absorbing bumpers
- Chrome/bright trim on side of body and on bumpers
- Coefficient of drag: 0.3
- Driver and passenger power heated body color door mirrors
- External dimensions: overall length (mm): 4,666, overall width (mm): 1,760, overall height (mm): 1,389, wheelbase (mm): 2,659, front track (mm): 1,514, rear track (mm): 1,488 and curb to curb turning circle (mm): 10,790
- Front fog lights
- High pressure headlight cleaners
- Halogen bulb headlights
- Front steel electric tilting sliding sunroof
- Tinted glass
- Weights: gross vehicle weight rating (kg) 1,969 and curb weight (kg) 1,548
- Two-speed windshield wipers with variable intermittent wipe

THIS PARTIUCLAR 1995 ALFA ROMEO 164LS

HIGHLIGHTS

- 78,710 documented miles!
- Difficult to find 164LS version
- 5 Speed
- Well maintained by Alfa Performance Connection (APC) - Southern California
- Well sorted, reliable example
- Runs & drives very well
- Very original (Minor modifications installed and tuned professionally)
- Very straight with excellent paint
- Exterior, interior, trunk & engine bay reflect "enthusiast care"
- No signs of rust
- Professionally installed upgrades including: "Q" model intake runners & Squadra performance chip
- Recent mechanical work including timing belt
- New A/C compressor
- Extremely difficult to find in this condition

OVERALL CONDITION

COSMETIC

Having travelled just over 78,000 miles the car is in absolutely beautiful condition. The exterior has the appearance of a considerably new vehicle and the paint, body, trim, glass and other exterior components are in excellent condition. The car reportedly received a VERY high quality repaint in its factory original color and, frankly, if anything the paint quality is equal to, perhaps better than the original paint. There is NO overspray on the trim and the paint is totally flat, free from orange peel or other defects and the car was painted as a "complete" (no partial painting of panels, etc.). The 164LS is striking and the photos accurately reflect its condition.

Alfa Romeo's (and many other vehicles) carried permanent stickers on various panels (fenders, doors, front and rear bumper cover, and rear quarter panels) in order to determine originality and be able to ascertain if any accident damage has resulted in replacement of a panel (s). We look for these "Numbers" not only for the sake of originality but also to ensure that the car has not been involved in an accident. We are pleased to report that this Alfa has the original numbers on the rear quarter panels, all 4 doors, and both front fenders. The front and rear bumpers are free from any damage, significant imperfections or damage. Please take a look at the photographs that show the car was a suburban car and not subjected to the parking realities of big city life.

The exterior trim is all original and in what we often refer to as "California condition." The trim is free from all but the most minor imperfections that can be expected on a vehicle of this vintage, none of which detract from the overall appearance and attractiveness of the Alfa. The glass is excellent, all of the power windows are functional and there are no stars or cracks in the windshield. The mirrors do not show the typical rock chips and the front spoiler is free from the usual major scrapes and damage and in very nice condition.

INTERIOR

The interior on the Alfa Romeo is in lovely condition and shows virtually no signs of wear due to the cars low mileage. There are some signs of patina of fine leather on the driver's side seat but the seat remains totally free from any rips, tears or damage to the seat bolster. This is a rarity with the relatively high bolstered sport style seating found in the Alfa 164LS. The passenger seat, rear seats, door panels, dash, headliner, carpet (covered with carpeted mats) and other interior components are excellent.

The Alfa remains 100% stock including the original, factory installed, fully functional (including automatic retracting power antenna) AM/FM Cassette radio. While the trunk mounted CD player is in place, (refer to photos) it does not appear to be working as a result of disconnected wiring. It may be a simple fix but we have not looked into the issue. The instrumentation is totally stock and, unlike many Alfa's of this vintage, all of the instruments work fine as does the air conditioning, cruise control and warning light system. Note: One of the photos shows the car with all doors open and the 4 door warning lights illuminating along with a round light for the emergency brake.

The automatic air condition system appears to be fully functional due, in part, to a relatively recent replacement of the air conditioning compressor. The LCD digital display readings show only partial numbers at some settings, a common reality with the older 164's. The power sunroof works fine as do the windows, door locks, remote mirrors and fully adjustable electric seats (both sides).

MECHANICAL CONDITION

In a word, excellent. This Alfa Romeo runs very strong and has been serviced by a highly respected Alfa specialist in Southern California, APC, for the previous five years. Specifically, Alfa Performance Connection indicates that they serviced the Alfa from November 7, 2007 when it had 68,118 miles until October 26, 2012 when it had 78,630 miles. The Car Fax records also support this mileage history. Documentation in our file supports their knowledge of the car and the recent repairs and upgrades as follows:

- New Timing Belt
- New Air Conditioning Compressor
- Regular Service
- Q Model Intake Runners
- Passed Smog (2007, 2009, 2011)
- Squadra Performance Chip (With a combination of Q Runner Intake & Chip 30+ horsepower reported by users on Websites)

DRIVING THE ALFA ROMEO 164LS

The additional of the professionally installed Squadra and improved Alfa Romeo "Q" intake runners the car is noticeably quicker than a stock 164LS but does not exhibit any negative tendencies. The Alfa 164LS was always a great sports sedan to drive but increase in horsepower adds to the experience. In all ranges the car pulls very strong and without hesitation. The car revs freely and upon hard acceleration there is controllable torque steer due to the front wheel drive configuration of the Alfa. The idle is smooth and even and the car has just had the benefit of a fresh catalytic converter to ensure compliance with California smog requirements.

Driving the Alfa is really a pleasure. There are no signs of mechanical issues and there is no noise in the drive-line. The clutch is excellent, the transmission shifts very well, the synchromesh gears are excellent (even at higher speeds) and the car is fitted with relatively new, matching tires and original "telephone dial" Alfa Romeo wheels. The car steers straight, stops straight and has excellent brakes. An inspection of the underside of the car is clean and free from rust and any signs of previous repair or accidents. We encourage a review of the photos as the old adage "A photo is worth a thousand words" clearly applies in this instance! All of the electrical components are fully functional and the car passed California's strict safety inspection for lights, turn signals, wipers, within the previous week. The car is licensed and registered in California and, of course, has a free and clear California title.

The trunk and engine bay are very clean and consistent with the condition of the car's exterior and interior quality. We often times receive questions that go something like: "Does the car really look as good as it does in the photographs"? The answer in this case is no. In this case, the looks better. Perhaps most important, this is an opportunity to own a truly unique and original Alfa 164LS that offers great handling, looks and performance at a very attractive price.

This 164LS is certainly in good nick. Cosmetically, the only issue I could spot was the clearcoat lifting a bit on the alloy wheels. With the recent timing belt replacement and a long record of service by an Alfa specialist, the new owner should rest rather easy. Even good examples of a late model 164 can be had for well under $10,000 these days. I'd suspect a very clean, well kept 164LS like this would probably fetch somewhere between $6,500 and $8,000 to the right buyer.

-Paul

1995 Alfa Romeo 164LS

Like clothing from certain Italian design houses, I know that cars like this Alfa Romeo 164 would just fit me better. Even though it shares its platform with the Saab 9000, Lancia Thema and Fiat Croma, the 164 departs from the other three with sharper, Pininfarina styling that provides a nice, tailored look to the executive sedan. This was the last new Alfa Romeo to be sold in the US before the 8C Competizione arrived and this 1995 model represents the final year of the 164 being stateside. Unlike a lot the 164 sedans we've featured previously, this 164LS has the automatic transmission.

1995 Alfa Romeo 164LS

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This one owner Alfa (last year of production) has automatic transmission, leather/power/heated seats, fog lights, power windows, power door locks, headlight washers, power folding mirrors, factory 12-disc CD changer/tape/AM/FM, power sunroof and air conditioning.

Engine is in good shape, does not smoke, does not leak, nice and quiet. Recently the timing belt was replaced. Transmission feels perfect, shifts without any problems, without delay, and without noise. Suspension is in excellent shape, car tracks nice and straight. There is no evidence of any electrical problems. The exterior is in excellent shape for a 1995. The paint looks original, and there is no rust anywhere on the car. Leather seats, carpet and glass are all in great shape.

Interior of this car is nice and clean. This Alfa has four matching tires with more then 75% tread left, that are mounted on good straight rims. Our mechanics have performed all of the necessary maintenance and have replaced front brake pads. It will be sold with a clear title and it will be sold as-is, where-is.

The 164 looks good in almost any color, but in LS trim, black is a very classy choice for this stylish sedan. At $9,350, this much luxury may seem a bargain, but realistically, this car is worth somewhere between $6,000 and $8,000, even considering the low mileage. If I had the space and extra cash lying around, I'd be willing to go as far as about $8,500 to have a clean, unmolested example of one of these, even if it was automatic. The exhaust note alone is worth the price of admission.

-Paul

1995 Alfa Romeo 164LS

As Americans wait with baited breath for the return of Alfa Romeo to this market, let's take a look back at one of the very last new Alfa Romeos, besides the ultra limited 8C Competizione, to grace these shores: the 164. With very few sales in its final year in the US market, these cars were not cross shopped by your typical Lexus or Mercedes-Benz customer. Only hardcore enthusiasts needed to apply. Two versions of the 164 were available in its final year; the Quadrofoglio and the LS version, as we see here. The LS was the luxury model of the pair, but equipped with a 5-speed manual such as our feature car, it still made for an involved driving experience. This 164LS for sale in Miami has a low 85,000 miles on the clock and looks the business in black.

1995 Alfa Romeo 164LS

Black on Black 95 LS with 85,000 miles. Asking $4,000. I have had this car since 2004 and all work has been done at Auto Veloce in Miami. The car runs great, its fast and I wouldn't hesitate driving it cross country.

The good:
- The engine is strong with and the car runs fantastic
- New clutch installed last week
- New radiator 9 months ago.
- No overheating issues
- Interior is in great shape
- AC work great.
- New Pioneer head unit can use new speakers.
- All maintenance is up do date.
- Oil change last week.
- New brake pads last week.
- Timing belt around 10K ago.
- No leaks
- No rust

The Bad:
- Needs a paint job along with minor repair to front bumper due to a minor parking lot bump. I have the metal trim piece (its used but its straight).
- Rear windows are stuck. motor or button, I don't know. They used to work until one day they didn't and I never bothered fixing.
- Needs new muffler.

The seller seems very motivated to sell and has been rather transparent about the issues with this car. At $4,000, I tend to think this is good value for a late model 164 with the desirable 5-speed gearbox. This is a car that certainly deserves the TLC that it needs. With a fresh paint job and some minor fixes, this 164 could serve as a classy executive express for many years to come.

-Paul

1994 Alfa Romeo 164LS

Following on to the Alfa Romeo 164L for sale by our reader Robert, here is a later model example of the luxury version of the 164. This is another well maintained example, having lived most of its life in California and has benefitted from a significant amount of maintenance and repairs in the last six months. The 1994 and 1995 versions of the 164 had a horsepower increase over earlier 164s, as they switched to a V6 with 24 valves; double that of the old engine. This provided a bump from 183 horsepower to 210 (or 230 horsepower in the S version).

1994 Alfa Romeo 164LS

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1994 Alfa Romeo 164 LS Automatic Transmission. 101,059 Mileage, no accidents, California car until 2009-2010 or somewhere around that time, Autocheck to reference. Located in Eden Prairie, Minnesota

Over $2,000 invested in maintenance and upkeep done on this car within the last 6 months through a reputable mechanic. Engine is in excellent running condition with no oil burning, smoking, knocking, or any other Alfa Romeo related issues. Engine pulls strongly through its full revolution range and the transmission is an excellent compliment to the power plant going through its auto/sport/winter mode perfectly. The sport mode, in particular, transforms this car from being a cruiser to throaty road ripper. Auto mode, which I usually use, is most appropriate for daily driving providing an excellent balance between drivability and fuel economy.

This car is an excellent car needing nothing but an owner. It is best to buy a car where everything works mechanically and electrically from the start, and has documentation, than to buy a cheap car and have to chase annoying problems which can be expensive. It is also in unmodified, original condition! This is a fine Italian car that you will wake up and look forward to driving. Considering that all the work has been done for you, you needn't fear driving this car back home or driving it on an everyday basis. Truly, a fine car at a reasonable price!

Note that there is a significant difference between the 1991-1993 models and the 1994-1995 models. The 91-93 models came with 12V engines whilst the 94-95 models came with 24V engines. Exterior as well as interiors have been redesigned. The newer model years also had numerous upgrades including stronger structures, suspension enhancements, improved electronics with much fewer "stepper gear" problems, and other noteworthy upgrades. Plus, the 24V engine power is always nice to have and given that the 24V engine was used well into the 166 models, it is a proven engine for a flagship car!

Mechanical work done within 6 months to last year:
-Steering rack replacement + steering bushings (Lifetime warranty comes from Jorgen Automotive but I am not sure whether that can be transferred. Paper work will be provided.)
-Oil cooler hoses replaced
-Lower radiator hose replaced
-Front brake pads/front rotors
-Repainting of sunroof, front bumper, mirrors, stone chips on hood
-Horn relay
-Headlight replacement (as filament turned brown)
-Fuel door repair which had snapped off hinges
-Complete fluid change transmission, radiator, oil, brake, PS fluid etc...
-Interior light bulbs including the foot well lights
-Timing belt done with idler bearings @ 92K
-Front Struts and Springs done @ 92K
-Tires all around done @ 92-93K
-Etc. and other maintenance such as oil changes/filter

Mechanically:
-Drives perfectly, very stable, and strong willing engine
-No engine issues, engine stays within 160-190F range
-Transmission modes work. Sport holds gears appropriately, Auto upshifts quicker, Winter starts in 2nd gear
-ANSA chrome exhaust rumbles, sounds appropriate for engine
-Engine compartment clean and well-kept

Exterior:
-Very good, no delamination on clear coat. Minor scratches. Minor door dings. Nothing large. No rust on body.
-No rust underneath undercarriage. Amazing.
-Chrome in fine condition.
-Wheels are adequate but not great as they have scratches on them and have slight discoloration. They do not exhibit any curb rash on the edges.
-Glass is excellent.

Interior:
-Leather seats perfect, never guess they were 18 years old. No rips, tears, scuffs, scratches, abrasions, discoloration, and still retains its texture, not patina in my opinion.
-Scratches/texture issues on radio cover, and ash tray. See pics. Restoration on radio cover may be done pretty easily with acetone and spray paint. I have not done it because it doesn't bother me at all because I leave it open most of the time.
-Headliner clean and in good condition.
-All electronics work. Seats lift/adjust electrically, sunroof, mirrors, gas cap, trunk, etc.
-Radio is not original. It is a tape player. It is nothing fancy but adequate. I do not have the original radio.
-Rare! The climate display works. Must be a rare survivor or has been replaced. No fading at all.
-Carpet near perfect.
-Trunk clean

This car is in great condition but please be mindful that this is a 17-18 year old vehicle and therefore, your expectations should be realistic. It is not perfect, and car does not come with a warranty from seller, implied or explicit. On the whole, Alfa Romeos have a mystique aptly described by Jeremy Clarkson on Top Gear BBC. You've really never experienced a more pure driving experience until you've owned an Alfa Romeo. The connection the driver has with the engine and steering is unlike any car I've ever owned and I am sure many would agree.

One thing that I have always admired about the 164 is the engine. Just look at it. You could put a picture of it on your living room wall and call it art. Quite possibly one of the more aesthetically pleasing powerplants of our time. With no reserve, this Alfa will most likely fetch between $4,000 to $6,000. Overall, this is a pleasing example of a tasteful Italian sports sedan.

-Paul